It’s been a while………but here’s a link to a guest blog I’ve done for Pauley Creative on my thoughts on BIM ……..
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The WordPress.com stats helper monkeys prepared a 2011 annual report for this blog.
Here’s an excerpt:
A New York City subway train holds 1,200 people. This blog was viewed about 7,500 times in 2011. If it were a NYC subway train, it would take about 6 trips to carry that many people.
Tags: Bills of Quantities, BIM, boq's, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, Contractual Issues, derek mynott, Economy, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, government construction strategy, Main Contractors, Quantity Surveyors, RICS, SMM7, tender, tenders
I’ve bemoaned the design teams before about the apparent lack of sending out co-ordinated information on cd’s/dvd’s and remote ftp servers and saying here it is go and get what you need we’ve given you everything you want.
These days though with the click of a few buttons we are being sent more and more information to wade through and less and less time to understand it. And it comes in such confusing layouts/styles/folders that sometimes you just don’t know where to begin.
I had a contractor call over to see me last week with another project to look at, and it made me stop and think about how we deal with things.
The scenario goes…. (insert the names of relevant folders or projects to suit your own story as you wish)
He hands me the cd of information, up pops the folder on screen and then the fun begins…..
What are we looking for?
Well some sort of guidance as to what we’ve got for a start would be good.
Where is that.
I don’t know have a look in that folder there marked folder 1
no, nothing in there…..says contract to follow
ok, look at that one there marked folder 2
Look it’s got dwg and pdf versions of the drawings!
Ah, good a nice list, what are the drawing titles?
I don’t know there aren’t any it’s just a list of numbers
Where’s the drawing register
There isn’t one, well at least not in this folder
And so it goes on…
Now I know the government is talking about making a 20% saving in its Government Construction strategy document that it has just published, but I seriously reckon that if we got our act together and introduced a standard way of issuing electronic information we could save many man hours of each of us trying to fathom out what on earth it was we were looking at that would go towards this target.
Perhaps that could be included somewhere in the very first item of the Action Plan on co-ordination and leadership?
Thanks to Zolna Murray for the inspiration for this blog for her discussion on LinkedIn ‘How to booby trap a contractor’ and the blog she posted on the 27th May with her list of her top 5 booby traps
Tags: Bills of Quantities, BIM, constructing excellence, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, Contractual Issues, derek mynott, Economy, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, Main Contractors, partnering, payment disputes, Quantity Surveyors, Recession, RICS, SMM7
And then you tell me if you agree with my views.
Working together in sweet harmony just isn’t working in the construction industry in my humble opinion, no matter hard all of us may try. It’s always been the lowest price that wins no matter what.
Well I believe every stakeholder, no matter who they are, has a commercial interest somewhere along the line in the outcome of any given project.
Don’t they?……….Think about it.
Forget about shared goals and fluffy stuff like that, at the moment its hard nosed business attitudes that prevail. Isn’t it?
And depending upon which end of the collaboration chain you’re on will depend upon how you view it to be working.
Wikipedia defines collaboration as: ‘working together to achieve a goal….’
Constructing excellence has a definition of partnering as: “Partnering is a management approach used by two or more organisations to achieve specific business objectives by maximising the effectiveness of each participant’s resources. It requires that the parties work together in an open and trusting relationship based on mutual objectives, an agreed method of problem resolution and an active search for continuous measurable improvements.”
So, the next project you are asked to work in collaboration with a client, design team, contractor, subcontractor, supplier are you all going to have the same goal? Well that depends on the goal doesn’t it I hear you say. Getting the building handed over on time, to the right quality and to budget are the normal acceptable goals aren’t they.
But making a decent return out of it too? Working on a cost-reimbursable, target cost, open book with a percentage addition for on-cost and profit?
Is that part of it? Yes, it should be.
So my point is, it’s a commercial world, everyone is looking after their own business interests at the end of it all. So to see true collaboration some big barriers have got to be broken down, and a truly trusting partnership formed between all parties.
Will that ever happen?
No, not at the moment……but wait until BIM really comes into its own, then you will see the cultural change that this will demand, that in my opinion will change the way we work in this industry in a very significant way.
Tags: Bills of Quantities, boq's, building, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, derek mynott, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, honest tendering, Main Contractors, payment disputes, Quantity Surveyors, RICS, SMM7, tendering, tenders
it’s about, as the title says above………. Honest tendering.
It can be found at http://www.cmmuk.com/honest-tendering-derek-mynott
Tags: Colin Elsbury, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, Contractual Issues, defamation, derek mynott, Economy, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, libel, Main Contractors, measurement, no win no fee, Quantity Surveyors, RICS, SMM7, super injunctions, taking off, twitter
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The reason I did that was I was looking back to see if a theme was developing on what people most like to read about.
However given all the current talk about super injunctions I thought I’d do a post that I’ve had in my head for a while.
I really did have it in my mind to do a posting about a recent case involving twitter and a local councillor in South Wales. Seems a bit corny to do it now, but hey ho. I’m not going to talk about the super injunction stuff, but about the twitter case.
The case in question was about defamation and involved councillor Colin Elsbury at the local elections earlier this year, and mistaken identity.
There are loads of places to read about the facts of the case, and I suppose if you are going to read about it anywhere The MailOnline would be a good place to go!
I had also seen an article in March written by CMS Cameron McKenna too titled ‘Can you damage a reputation in 140 characters?’ This interestingly was also looking at the ‘no win, no-fee’ conditional fee agreement in the case too.
The principle message behind this is simple, as stated by the judge in the case at the time.
‘Anything posted on twitter is in the public domain and subject to libel laws’.
The fine ultimately worked out to be just more than £2,400-a-word!
Which brings me full circle to the blogs I’ve done! I don’t think I’ve posted anything to upset anyone, but if I have, do please accept my apologies……
So finally, be warned, and think before you tweet……….
Tags: Bills of Quantities, BIM, boq's, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, Contractual Issues, derek mynott, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, Main Contractors, measurement, quantity surveyor, Quantity Surveyors, RICS, SMM7, taking off
I’ve followed a discussion on LinkedIn recently where a student posted a comment seeking help on advice for the measurement of centre lines for some taking off he was doing. It caused quite an interesting conversation to develop that, instead of giving the guy the actual answer he was looking for, a whole debate ensued about the merits or otherwise of measurement.
One part of the debate centred on a clients view that he did not see it necessary to pay for a BOQ to be produced anymore, accepting that someone had to do it, but not his Consultant QS. His view being it gave him little or no value, so why pay for it.
It ended up in a traditional ‘old school’ view that BOQ’s are very necessary against a more modern and pragmatic approach, to what is really important in the process of construction quantification.
So should we be bothering to measure out all sorts of quantities in great detail anymore?
Or should we be taking a different approach?
This kind of continues on from my blog of last week about BIM and bills of quantities being on the way out.
I don’t think we’ll ever get away from the need from having to have projects quantified, as at some point someone has got to put either a cost plan or a budget together and eventually someone will end up constructing the project and will need to understand the basic component parts of it.
After all somewhere along the line the costs have got to be controlled, and with the correct quantification of the project you stand a very good chance of at least achieving that!
It’s just to what level of detail will you be going?
And who will it be produced by?
Man or machine?
Let me know what you think in my poll.
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Why is it, that assuming exactly the same product is available, if you went to buy it from say, Harrods as opposed to any other high street retailer such as Argos and the like, you’d expect to pay more for it at where?
Well Harrods of course, everyone agrees on that.
So far so good.
Then why is it that a current trend I’m picking up on is to line up the likes of Harrods and Argos against each other and expect Harrods to give you the cheapest deal? Now substitute those names with any diverging set of Contractors or Subcontractors or Suppliers you care to name. Oh and then also have a very extensive list too, don’t just go to Harrods and Argos. Now I can hear you all groan as you say we’ll never win that project with ‘X’ on the tender list they are ‘buying’ work all over, what an unfair listing.
What damage is this practice doing to the industry as a whole?
Well here’s my take on a bit of that.
Part of our State of the Economy Survey we carried out recently contained a question ‘Whats the single biggest likely area for costs to increase this year for you?’ We had the usual expected answers of fuel, steel, concrete and the like, see the recent building article we are living in a materials world for more on that….…but, one of the other top answers was ‘the increasing cost of putting together a bid to win a project.’
Well we know for sure about that in a small way for our contribution of providing bills of quantities to contractors bidding on design and dump, errr sorry, design and build projects these days. Let alone the pqq’s that go before that, the subsequent bid team that is needed and the various documents that everyone seems to require for the bid and then no longer refer to for the duration of the project. As after all who considers those when ‘X’ has put in a bid so much cheaper than anyone else………you go with ‘X’ don’t you……… it’s such a bargain you cannot refuse it.
Now where does everyone think these costs end up?
Well on the face of it with the contracting party.
But in the long run?
Well the end user of course.
What a waste of time, money and effort.
Who advises clients on this?
Well professional advisers naturally. So come on guys instead of lining up Harrods with Argos, make the competition realistic and keep the numbers bidding to a sensible list. Stand up to Clients who insist on having you compile unbalanced tender lists. You’ll be surprised about the outcome.
And a final thought, what practice came about as a result of extensive tender lists and contractors not wishing to decline a tender opportunity………..
Tags: Bills of Quantities, boq's, construction, contractors quantity surveyor, derek mynott, Economy, g f partnership, gf partnership, gfp, Main Contractors, Quantity Surveyors, RICS, SMM7, taking off, Temporary Recruitment, training
We don’t mind teaching people how to measure properly (if you’re interested that is) to SMM7 standards.
Shocking I know isn’t it!
You see the thing is the more people that know the better the standard will be in the industry for us all.
A bit of an outdated view perhaps?
Well what is the first thing anyone wants when they price a job? A set of quantities, what else would you need? And the thing is it’s getting harder and harder to find people that can do it.
So here’s the deal (I’m sure that’s a line from an advert, and this is one by the way) we recently did a training session for a contractor for his staff on groundworks. We used a sample of a current job they were looking at as the basis of the session.
They liked it
We liked it
We taught some younger folk the rudimentary elements of taking off, and they also found some mistakes in the tender they were looking at – potentially we saved them a lot of money as a result!
It’s my favourite topic at the moment, measurement or the apparent lack of it by the RICS in encouraging it to be taught. If you saw their recent training brochure dated January 2011 there’s absolutely nothing included for it. Unless of course you include (no offence guys) teaching estate agents how to measure gross or net internal floor areas for the sum of £295 per person! Now how on earth are all these new recruits going to know how to do things? Rely on the Universities? But they aren’t teaching it! It’s dreadful…
So for those of you who want a little taster of the sort of thing we can offer, have a look at this link to our website on the basics of how to measure excavation and earthworks – I hope you enjoy it!