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CSA’s – They’re a waste of time!

The government, and most of the private sector too, is very committed to reducing costs in the construction process. The thing is most of the effort, quite rightly, focuses on site performance and delivery. But has anyone looked recently at the estimating and pre-tender stage? And in particular the amount of time the estimating teams put in to following some ridiculous CSA documents.

Here’s a few recent examples of ones I’ve come across and the first one gave me the reason to write this.

Example 1

Contractor sends the usual information by email, attached are some innocuous looking attachments labelled as section 2, section 3 etc.

Open the section 2 document and it’s a schedule for that part of the contract works (the project is in phases, and by the way it’s a school refurbishment project), so far so good.

Start reading

Room G01, stripping out items, several of them over 3 pages, that’s a lot of items for a small room. Keep reading…..Room G02, stripping out items, several of them over 2 pages, that’s a lot of items. Keep reading…..Room G03, stripping out items, several of them over 3 pages, this is getting repetitive now. Keep reading……….Room G04, more of the same………..

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100 pages later I’ve reached the end of the stripping out section!

Now start all over again for the re-instatement works, room-by-room element in detail by element in detail until we get to page 224.

The END.

For section 2!

Then we have a repeat for sections 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. A whopping 945 pages long!

The brief for the contractor price every single item in full on the CSA please otherwise we won’t consider your tender.

Our brief measure every single item out in the CSA in full in that order.

Now I’m all for keeping busy and working hard, but this is just beyond me as to why someone would want this…………….unless of course you have

a) a lazy consultant qs who cannot produce a cost plan in the first place for his client, and is therefore using the tender document from the contractors to work out what the client can afford or,

b) a consultant qs who quite simply does not comprehend the inordinate amount of work and effort required by the contractor to price such a document, or

c) please insert your own answer here

Example 2

Same story, contractor sends the usual information via a portal website this time, result much the same. Innocent looking information arrives. 5 sites this time in separate locations. Need I say more. Please price the same scope of works (all houses and flats of very similar nature) 5 times over please keeping the costs for all sites separate.

Example 3

I think you get the gist…………I could go on

 

The thing is how does the supply chain react when receiving such documents?

We all know the answer to that, as we aren’t exactly quiet right now are we?

 

 


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